FAQ  •  Login

new here!

Moderator: Wilkins Rep-Detect BR2349

<<

BR796164

User avatar

Moderator
Moderator

Posts: 1146

Joined: Mon Mar 18, 2002 6:00 pm

Location: Bratislava, Slovakia

Post Mon Feb 09, 2004 9:58 am

If you take into account that Dark City was one of the major inspirations for Wachowski's Matrix, I would say that DC is quite important.

Unfortunately The Matrix got all the fame and when some people see DC now, they say "Hey, it's like a Matrix derivate or something..."


Shame.
<<

Leon Corporation

User avatar

Rep Detector Handler
Rep Detector Handler

Posts: 342

Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2003 5:56 pm

Post Mon Feb 09, 2004 11:41 am

No, it's understandable.
Image
Leon Corporation Employee
<<

Treybor

User avatar

Rep Detector Handler
Rep Detector Handler

Posts: 359

Joined: Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:18 pm

Location: San Diego, CA

Post Mon Feb 09, 2004 10:19 pm

Leon Corporation wrote:I'm sure someone here pretty soon will utter the words Dark City and classic SF in one sentence , I'm a right? Like they are all part of that long list of SF classics.


Run Away! Run Away! :shock: :shock: :shock:
Welcome to the Treybortorium! Rooms are $100 a night, but padded cells are free....
<<

Deckard BR26354

User avatar

Veteran Blade Runner
Veteran Blade Runner

Posts: 1202

Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2001 6:00 pm

Location: UK

Post Wed Feb 11, 2004 7:38 pm

Yes, I like Dark City and I'm beginning to really appreciate Brazil now I've seen it a few times - kinda of grows on you like another film we all know well.

Did I mention that I'm attempting to list every film I've ever seen? Seriously, it's more difficult than you might think...

...oh, welcome Sir Kris!
Richard Gunn

We each live in our own realities - who's maintaining yours?

The only thing that you can be 100% sure of, is that you can't be 100% sure of anything.
<<

Treybor

User avatar

Rep Detector Handler
Rep Detector Handler

Posts: 359

Joined: Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:18 pm

Location: San Diego, CA

Post Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:19 am

Deckard BR26354 wrote:Yes, I like Dark City and I'm beginning to really appreciate Brazil now I've seen it a few times - kinda of grows on you like another film we all know well.

Did I mention that I'm attempting to list every film I've ever seen? Seriously, it's more difficult than you might think...

...oh, welcome Sir Kris!


I used to get a movie product guide when I worked in oregon. It listed all available movies on DVD and VHS at the time. just for fun I counted how many I'd seen and it was close to 1000! I'd hate to try and list those....I do keep track of the movies on VHS and DVD we have at home. We're up to about 325. Mostly scifi and fantasy......
BTW: Dark City was not one of my favorites. I give it a 4 out of 10 score.
No offence, but I thought it was a little lame. Then again, Lame Sci-fi is better than no sci-fi. :)
Welcome to the Treybortorium! Rooms are $100 a night, but padded cells are free....
<<

Leon Corporation

User avatar

Rep Detector Handler
Rep Detector Handler

Posts: 342

Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2003 5:56 pm

Post Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:56 am

And it tried to copy another movie's style, you know, with its city and 40s look. Do I need to go on?

But then again, a lot of movie were influenced by the same movie that Dark City tries to borrow from.
Image
Leon Corporation Employee
<<

Deckard BR26354

User avatar

Veteran Blade Runner
Veteran Blade Runner

Posts: 1202

Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2001 6:00 pm

Location: UK

Post Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:39 am

Blade Runner copies many styles - it isn't totally original.
Richard Gunn

We each live in our own realities - who's maintaining yours?

The only thing that you can be 100% sure of, is that you can't be 100% sure of anything.
<<

Leon Corporation

User avatar

Rep Detector Handler
Rep Detector Handler

Posts: 342

Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2003 5:56 pm

Post Thu Feb 12, 2004 6:47 am

Deckard BR26354 wrote:Blade Runner copies many styles .


And made it into something unique. Strange that I have to defend this movie here, of all places. Tell me what movie "Blade Runner" copies. With "Dark City" I definitely knew what I saw, and it wasn't unique, Proyas didn't mold it to his own creation. The city in "Attack of the Clones" more then reminded me of something, especially when they're not flying their cars but pursuit their chase on foot. Spielberg's (new) city in "A.I." looked also quite familiar. Some video clips go to extreme lengths to mimic BR's look. "Blade Runner" happens to be one of the most influential films ever made, you know this. What title does "Dark City" deserves? What title did it earn?
There are only a few great classic SF films. Blade Runner is one of them. All other SF movies like "Dark City", "The Thirteenth Floor" and even "Gattaca" are small fish, and their only function is to fill up the time we have to wait for a next sci-fi wonder to cross our path. Amen
Image
Leon Corporation Employee
<<

Deckard BR26354

User avatar

Veteran Blade Runner
Veteran Blade Runner

Posts: 1202

Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2001 6:00 pm

Location: UK

Post Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:32 am

Don't get me wrong - I think Blade Runner is the best movie ever made. But to suggest that it's totally original is going a little too far in my opinion.

Have you seen the film Metropolis (1926)?

Have you seen any Film Noir from the 40/50's? Do you know about the characters 'Sam Spade' or 'Philip Marlowe'?

Are you aware of 'Heavy Metal' magazine? Have you heard of Jean Giraud?
Richard Gunn

We each live in our own realities - who's maintaining yours?

The only thing that you can be 100% sure of, is that you can't be 100% sure of anything.
<<

Leon Corporation

User avatar

Rep Detector Handler
Rep Detector Handler

Posts: 342

Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2003 5:56 pm

Post Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:31 am

Of course, they say that something can never fully be totally original. Blade Runner was a redefined Philip Marlow in a sort of Metropolisque future combined with a significant dose of Moebius plus a few other ingredients. I'm well aware of that. But is was exactly the mixture of all the forementioned elements that gave birth to a entity that was new and in its turn very influential.
Image
Leon Corporation Employee
<<

Treybor

User avatar

Rep Detector Handler
Rep Detector Handler

Posts: 359

Joined: Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:18 pm

Location: San Diego, CA

Post Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:31 pm

IMHO: the thing that Blade Runner did, that that no other dark metropolis film had ever done before, was to subtly make you worry about your own future.

1. BR showed the evolution of the corporate world, but clearly showed that it was built upon the decaying ruins of today's society. To think that things could change so dramatically in so short a time was unnerving-- and still is.

2. BR showed a world where most animal life on the planet is gone forever. The character's reactions to this realityare pretty "matter-of-fact" and non emotional. that in itself is a little bone chilling.

3. BR showed a VERY possible future (albiet predicted perhaps a little early). Technology is handled ina very humane and every day way. (IE: Lit umbrellas, hovercars intermingled with ground craft, in your face Advertising for every day products, etc.)

4. And lastly it showed a fatal human flaw---man thinking that he is all important, to the exclusion of all else. people fear the replicants because the replicants are too much like themselves. So much so that they have to erase the evidence wih a blaster pistol.
Welcome to the Treybortorium! Rooms are $100 a night, but padded cells are free....
<<

gerdpee

Rookie Rep Detect
Rookie Rep Detect

Posts: 16

Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2004 9:37 pm

Post Tue Feb 24, 2004 9:47 pm

Hi

Greetings,
I'm also new here. What's in the 3 DVD set? Is it gonna include the voice-over version? I've been looking for that version forever.

Gerd
<<

Leon Corporation

User avatar

Rep Detector Handler
Rep Detector Handler

Posts: 342

Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2003 5:56 pm

Post Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:11 am

Treybor wrote:IMHO: the thing that Blade Runner did, that that no other dark metropolis film had ever done before, was to subtly make you worry about your own future.

1. BR showed the evolution of the corporate world, but clearly showed that it was built upon the decaying ruins of today's society. To think that things could change so dramatically in so short a time was unnerving-- and still is.

2. BR showed a world where most animal life on the planet is gone forever. The character's reactions to this realityare pretty "matter-of-fact" and non emotional. that in itself is a little bone chilling.

3. BR showed a VERY possible future (albiet predicted perhaps a little early). Technology is handled ina very humane and every day way. (IE: Lit umbrellas, hovercars intermingled with ground craft, in your face Advertising for every day products, etc.)

4. And lastly it showed a fatal human flaw---man thinking that he is all important, to the exclusion of all else. people fear the replicants because the replicants are too much like themselves. So much so that they have to erase the evidence wih a blaster pistol.



Good ones, Treybor!

And like no other movie did before, Blade Runner is also good in showing man's loneliness. Without it BR wouldn't be half as great.
Image
Leon Corporation Employee
<<

Darklighterx

Rookie Rep Detect
Rookie Rep Detect

Posts: 24

Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2004 1:20 pm

Location: Fort Worth

Post Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:02 pm

Newb to this site alert! :roll:
<<

Treybor

User avatar

Rep Detector Handler
Rep Detector Handler

Posts: 359

Joined: Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:18 pm

Location: San Diego, CA

Post Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:34 pm

Darklighterx wrote:Newb to this site alert! :roll:


Quick! Get out the VK and check him! :lol:
Welcome to the Treybortorium! Rooms are $100 a night, but padded cells are free....
PreviousNext

Return to Blade Runner Round Table

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests