Blue Sky - what does it Symbolise?

We only get a glimpse of blue sky when the pigeon that's left Roy's hand takes for the heavens. In your opinion what does this symbolise? Is it accidental? or is it supposed to mean something more than a pretty scene with a white pigeon and a blue backround?
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I think its accidental, the transition was too quick and drastic in terms of setting
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I read somewhere that the pigeon represents (according to whoever wrote that article) Roy's soul leaving. Well I guess it can represent anything you want it to as personally perceived by yourself. However, I'm sure that Ridley Scott, as any other director of that caliber, would check such important ending scenes frame by frame. I believe that the blue sky might have been accidentally shot originally while making the film, but in no case accidentally included in the film's release.<BR>My subjective opinion is that the scene represents <!-- BBCode Start --><B> liberation and peace </B><!-- BBCode End -->, Roy's liberation from his struggle, nothing for him to lose anymore, and also Deckard's liberation, his task is finally over. The struggle between the two men is over, their confrontation and battle was dictated by conditions they were both servants to in a different manner; the final moments represent this mutual realisation and a sparkle of peace between the two spirits (whether replicant or human).<BR>
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When I studied BR in Year 12 we talked about this moment in the film.<BR><BR>The blue sky IS meant to be there. Its sort of representative of Roy Batty's ascension into heaven. Although he was a bad person, he wasnt. The fact that he was replicant and had an ultimate thirst for life is in comparison with the fact that all the humans in the film were hardboiled, very depressed, and despondent. Maybe due to the fact that it was always raining, cold and dark. The replicants were more human than human so to speak as they actually cared whether they died or not. So in terms of the ascension, His rise into heaven or the afterlife if you will is representative in the forever grey clouds opening up to herald and welcome his ascension. The dove is a international symbol of peace. When Roy Batty was dieing he held onto life as long as he could. Speaking of what he has seen and done much like an old man reflecting on a life that was. However, despite the circumstances, Roy did in fact die at a moment when he was at peace with the world. It is a natural responce to be frightened by death. Death affects us in ways that we cant explain. But its also natural to accept death when it is imminent. When it is "...time to die", as Roy says. He is prepared for death and is at a moment of so much peace with the world that it is represented by the release of a beautiful dove into the clearing sky.
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<!-- BBCode Start --><B>RepDetect Unit 1051</B><!-- BBCode End -->- that's the spirit! great stuff. What was the module you studied in year 12 called?<BR>I've also read that about how the pigeon is an international symbol of piece and why it was used as such in the film. I've also read similar reviews about what scenes in other films are supposed to mean, either according to the type of film or through some psychological or sociological analysis. I read somewhere (again no reference but the literature on BR is so vast) that Pris symbolises the female spider as she is painted as such, Tyrell is the male dominance thing etc etc. <BR>My point is, that all these dissertations, essays and articles about what the film is, or should be about, IMHO, illustrate their opinion as the absolute objective truth (in most cases). My personal opinion is that the "absolute objective truth" can only be what Ridley Scott (or any director for that matter) intends a scene to represent, otherwise it is your own subjective opinion. How can someone know what a director, poet, or painter, had exactly in mind unless he/she has explained what their creation is all about?<BR><BR>- Beware of the experts -<BR><BR><BR><BR>_________________<BR><!-- BBCode Start --><I>"I've hypothesised things you people wouldn't believe"</I><!-- BBCode End --><BR><BR><font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Dystopian Resident on 2002-03-04 06:35 ]</font>

Though it is thought provoking, it was totally accidental. In Future Noir, it was said that the bird wouldnt fly on the rain soaked set, something about how its wings wouldnt generate lift when it was wet, but in anycase they had to shoot that scene at a different location.
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Yeah, that's right - I think they ran out of budget and shot that seen here in the UK (although, I may be mistaken) at the same time that they re-shot the unicorn scene...<BR><BR>...I better re-read 'Future Noir' to check that...
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The dove that flies up into the sky is a different bird, shot at a different time of day in a different country. As stated above, the original was wet and couldn't fly - it flapped its wings a couple of times before deciding it would be easier to walk away.<BR><BR>The dove flying off is, of course, open to interpretation, but some might say there is no real need to interpret more than Hauer and Scott's concept of it showing when Roy dies.<BR><BR>The unicorn scene wasn't "re-shot", it was "first shot" in England (after other shooting had been completed). One reason it was so late was that Scott still hadn't decided that he was going to do it when filming started.<BR><BR><BR>
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You know, I really ought to take my copy of 'Future Noir' with me to my place of work so I can look stuff up <!-- BBCode Start --><I>before</I><!-- BBCode End --> I post...<!-- BBCode Start --><IMG SRC="http://www.deckard.worldonline.co.uk/images/gif/smile13.gif" BORDER="0"><!-- BBCode End --> <BR>
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Hang it round you neck on a peice of string.
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Dammit i still havent bought the good book yet, shame on me
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Wow <IMG SRC="/forum/images/smiles/icon_eek.gif"> <BR>I bought Future Noir yesterday and I can't put it down. Obviously I haven't read it all yet, I read the part which said that the dove scene was shot in a different country etc, but is there any mention of why a blue sky is used? and don't say because it's a different shot in another country! <BR>
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Probably just time constraint. It isn't overcast in England all the time you know! If they had to do a shot in a particular few days and the forecast for the next couple of days was "turning bright and sunny", they probably just had to take what they could get. Cameras, crew, etc. all have to be arranged and with no other filming to do, they wouldn't have the luxury of waiting around.
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better late than ever...<BR>i think that the pigeon represents roys soul leaving as well... as for the blue sky i think that after all this action and moody weather it represents the end of the tension and so called "drama" ...in greek tragedies this could be called a visual reference to "litrosis" or something like salvation of the leading actor who is in the middle of all this..the end of an era and the beginning of another...<IMG SRC="/forum/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">
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