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<BR>Verhoeven directed Total Recall a psychological masterpiece, he is very violent were as Spielberg wants a happy happy film! Explain to me which is the pansy?
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<BR>On 2003-02-11 15:12, ROBOCOP wrote:
<BR>Total Recall a psychological masterpiece
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<BR>I must admit, you have a strange view on what a "psychological masterpiece" is.
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<BR>I must mention this joke to my friend, who
<BR>studies film science...
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<BR>Ingmar Bergman's "Wild Strawberries",
<BR>Rainer Fassbinder's "Shadow of Angels",
<BR>Alain Resnais' "Last year in Marienbad"
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<BR>"Total Recall" is a money-wringing action flick, fairly thrilling, VERY LOOSELY based upon the Dick's book and the director took from it only the most "visually enjoyable" ideas, making it edible for wide masses.
<BR>Helps to kill a boring afternoon with bag of chips and a can of cola, but that's all. No long term rememberable moments, no hard philosophical analyses and sleepless nights, no regrets if you'll watch half of the movie at doublespeed.
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<BR>Personally, I don't want Spielberg to make another Dick movie - he made one already, and yeas, I think he made it good. For him as a director, as well as for me, the spectator. But if I had the chance to choose between Spielberg and Verhoeven, i'd certainly go with Spielberg. Spielbergs has a gift of creating strong, believable characters, he knows how to express their feelings, fears, joys and hopes.
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<BR>Verhoeven is an emotional invalid when it comes to that. All he wants is "BIG BOOM", "SPLATTY SPLAT" and "F...Y F..K".
<BR>To be just, he made some interesting (although not genial) short dramas while living in Netherlands. I think "Hitchiker" is a good thriller. But since then...?
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<BR>When I saw "Showgirls" I thought I'll vomit.
<BR>By the way, didn't Showgirls "won" the Golden Raspberry in 1996?
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<BR>he is very violent were as Spielberg wants a happy happy film!
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<BR>If it bleeds a lot, it's sooo coool, hm?
<BR>To hell with feelings!
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<BR>Minority Report wasn't a "happy happy film", it just had a good and TASTEFUL ending.
<BR>There is a great difference between good ending and happy ending - I don't demand good endings everywhere, but I am neither bashing them by purpose, what many people like to do.
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I must admit I enjoyed a couple of Verhoeven films..(ie the origional Robocop, Starship troopers.) But the only thing psychological about his films is his repressed 13 year old mentality and need for comic book violence and sex. I am actually slightly upset that he directed Total recall because I feel he ruined what it could have been. It had almost the orgional team that woked on Alien (except Ridley who I think turned it down)and it still looked like a cheesy sci-fi parody. It had no class, But it was fun and it made better Box office than BR. Isn't that what truly matters?
I think the next P.K. Dick movie is going to be Paycheck which will be directed by John Woo and starring Ben Affleck, Aaron Eckhart and Uma Thurman. According to imdb.com it's supposed to be released 2003-12-25.
The past is a puzzle, like a broken mirror. As you piece it together, you cut yourself. Your image keeps shifting, and you change with it.
I think that the best and only director of Dick films is Ridley Scott.
<BR>Verhoeven is too concered with getting a high body count in his films (how much of that shooting in Total Recall was <!-- BBCode Start --><I>really</I><!-- BBCode End --> necessary? Come on, it was a bit OTT.), whilst Spielburg is to 'happy' to truely represent Dick's style.
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<BR>As the director of the only Dick film to actually work, Ridley Scott is more concerned with the look and feel of the film, than how much money it would probably make.
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The reason he is so violent in his films is because he lived in Occupied Holland during WWII, and blood and guts all over the place was a common thing so he is used to the violence that is why it stems into his films. I was a bit over the top calling it a masterpiece, it was quite a mind screw though <IMG SRC="/forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">
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<BR>On 2003-02-07 01:04, BR796164 wrote:
<BR>Verhoeven? For a Dick film? Gotta be kidding!
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<BR>Dick is an intellectual writer!
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<BR>And Verhoeven is a pansy.
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<BR>you just KNEW that ROBOCOP was gonna have a problem with that <IMG SRC="/forum/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">
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I think i hit a nerve when i called Spielberg a pansy, well Spielberg deserved it, the ending of Minority was trash, the film was an amazing intellectual romp through the future but the "this person is here, That person is there" is cliche'd and cheesy. Very unoriginal!
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