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Blu ray Blooper ?!!!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:43 am
by nexuszix
Rachels VK test with Deckard on Blu ray is slightly longer than the DVD....i.e. time stretched resulting in the voices being slightly lower in pitch.:shock:
Can you believe it !!
I thought it sounded different then recorded both to find out and theres defiantely a difference.
see here > http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y33/ru ... /Snap2.jpg
DVD on the top bluray underneath (any differences in waveforms is down to me coughing)

It kind of bugs me as i'll always think of rachels being stoned whenever i see it on bluray..

So has anyone else noticed this ?
why should the bluray version have this oversight ? Is it deliberate ?

PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:20 pm
by nexuszix
I cant believe nobody else has noticed it....maybe everyones to busy taking in the bluray visuals to notice the audio.

Anyway i'm not very happy about it....I spent £200 on a panasonic player to watch my fav movie on only to find the damn audio is NOT RIGHT !!!

I demand an inquiry !!

PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:56 pm
by deleted
Don't feel bad man. When I found an error with the HD-DVD version of one of the archival versions, no one cared either.

I do think you found quite the oddity. Wish I could help.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:35 pm
by Noneoftheabove
I just got a new player myself, and I hadn't noticed anything unusual about the audio, other than it being really good.

I have the regular Final Cut on DVD that I watched on my Xbox 360. So I'll check both my Blu Ray player version of BR and Xbox to see if there is a difference in audio.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:34 am
by Gene Ettix
Maybe Rachael sounds stoned because of the un-filtered "cigarette" she's suckin' on. Seriously, we all know they're french cigarettes (but then, that's another thread)

Nexuszix - Is it only Rachael or both she and Deck?... Strange. And, I assume you're comparing the Blu-ray of the FC and not the DC... correct?

When listening to the FC just now, I can only notice how simply fantastic it sounds (even with the extra echo added during that scene). I'm not saying your audio test is inconclusive, I find it very interesting actually. If they are different on your player/disc as well as mine, my guess would be that the new version was corrected, if anything. But, I can't imagine Sean snapping her answers much faster than what I just heard :?

Anyhoo... this is all academic. Hopefully Charles can comment on this next time we're so lucky to have him visit.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:49 am
by nexuszix
I'm told its because all PAL dvd's are sped up by 4 % comapred with american NTSC discs..i.e. the BLU ray is how its ment to sound i'm just used to hearing my sped up PAL version.

:shock:

Gene Ettix- both are the FC

It actually makes a difference too (to my ears anyway) e.g. when Rachel confronts Deckard at his apartment about being a rep and says 'look its me with my mother'....on bluray she sounds more confident and self assured while on PAL she sounds more vulnerable with the higher voice.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:31 pm
by Gene Ettix
nexuszix wrote:I'm told its because all PAL dvd's are sped up by 4 % comapred with american NTSC discs..i.e. the BLU ray is how its ment to sound i'm just used to hearing my sped up PAL version.


Well, there you have it. :-s That changes the whole conversation. Can't believe you didn't mention PAL in your original post. The whole movie is altered... Voices, music, length, etc. I'm completely sure I would've heard the difference, too. Would drive me crazy.
The important thing is... you're hearing BR the way it's meant to be heard now. :)

BTW - You're gonna need to get comfortable with Rachael sounding 'stoned" to you :lol: Much more sultry & film noir-ish, don't you think?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:37 pm
by nexuszix
Gene Ettix wrote:BTW - You're gonna need to get comfortable with Rachael sounding 'stoned" to you :lol: Much more sultry & film noir-ish, don't you think?


LoL yep ! I've basically got a whole new film to watch :lol:

Btw are you getting high def sound too (HD master audio) ? I cant get it at the moment as i'll need to shell out about £500 for the amp and speakers but i am intrigued to experience it.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:40 am
by nails6365
very interesting m8, i found a glitch in the DVD version. when dekard is travelling through the tunnel and listening to the interview with leon, the audio cut is terrible.