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"Father" vs "Fucker"
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eccentricbeing wrote::shock: An expletive!
Context wise, "father" is most apt. But "fucker" makes Roy look real bad ass.
msgeek wrote:The "father" line was used in the American broadcast version, so basically it's a bowdlerization. It is a bowdlerization that was approved of by Scott, sort of like the use of "shoot, negro!" and similar bowdlerizations in the American broadcast version of Pulp Fiction written by Quentin Tarantino.
I suppose that Scott has the right to do this, provided that the writers also are on board. But I liked the harshness and menace in the original line. He is not being reunited with his father. He is facing the evil genius who made his enslavement possible.
I would have rather they kept the line as it is. However, again, Scott has the right to do this. I guess we should consider ourselves lucky that Scott didn't go the George Lucas route and bury the film under layers and layers of CGI eye candy.
Caru wrote::shock: What?
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I somewhat can understand, but think it is a pity.
Rutger was told to say it in such a way that it could sound like both. And I always liked that.
Indeed; the menace and bitterness in it.
(I even made my laptop say the line, so every time it shuts down you hear that, still makes me laugh out loud very childish, I know )
Caru wrote::shock: What?
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I somewhat can understand, but think it is a pity.
Rutger was told to say it in such a way that it could sound like both. And I always liked that.
Indeed; the menace and bitterness in it.
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Charles de Lauzirika wrote:There are actually three versions of this line (and you'll see all three in some form if you get the 4- or 5-disc sets):
"I want more life, father." - Workprint, Final Cut
"I want more life, fucker." - Theatrical, International, Director's Cuts.
"I want more life." - Alt. broadcast version (shown in Dangerous Days.)
Given that "father" is used in the Workprint, it actually makes it the original choice, historically-speaking. The line was then changed to "fucker" for the last 25 years and has now been restored to its original state, at the director's request.
Having said all that, I slightly prefer "fucker." But not so much that I'm going hold it against the Final Cut.
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Charles de Lauzirika wrote:There are actually three versions of this line (and you'll see all three in some form if you get the 4- or 5-disc sets):
"I want more life, father." - Workprint, Final Cut
"I want more life, fucker." - Theatrical, International, Director's Cuts.
"I want more life." - Alt. broadcast version (shown in Dangerous Days.)
Given that "father" is used in the Workprint, it actually makes it the original choice, historically-speaking. The line was then changed to "fucker" for the last 25 years and has now been restored to its original state, at the director's request.
Having said all that, I slightly prefer "fucker." But not so much that I'm going hold it against the Final Cut.
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Merc wrote:eccentricbeing wrote:At least we didn't get a scene with a CGI-rendered Mary where Deckard happens to step on her foot.
Too bad. I was looking forward to the "Holden Shoots First" scene myself
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